When I came back from my short vacation yesterday, I found a lot of stuff in my inbox.
Apart from a couple of hundred bounced messages (thanks to an email spammer using
my address again), Joe had forwarded me an email discussion he's had with a spammer
last week.
Here's his first email to Joe:
Hi joe,
If you don't want me to mess up with your site and get it removed from the
search engines, I recommend you to remove the page :
http://spammers.chongqed.org/green%20card%20lottery
until friday night (
next time ill check up ) , you have 48 hours starting now! ( monday 1:58
GMT+2 )
thank you very much,
lior
p.s. you wont get a second warning.
Joe replied that 1) he couldn't do anything about what is or is not on
chongqed.org and 2) that that ultimatum didn't make much sense. Did he mean
48 hours or did he mean until Friday night? Here's email #2
Dear joe,
Listen,
About Friday, you right, i got confused while writing the email
I meant Wednesday.
i can assure you i'm a better SEO then you guys are...
I can promise you that if you won't stop this nonsense i will develop A
competitive site which will definitely appear before your site at Google,
yahoo , msn , lycos , you name it...
I do not!!! Agree for you to do things like :
Wiki Spammer: usagc.us
usagc.us has been spamming wikis, blogs and/or bulletin boards to
promote their
site and increase their page rankings for the keyword green card
lottery. ...
spammers.chongqed.org/green%20card%20lottery - 7k - Cached - Similar
pages
if you really want to start a war , well go a head , just tell me.
I already bought chongqed.com and can't wait to eliminate you...
USAGC.org is not!!! A faked site... if you visited that site you would
have seen the table saying why it cost to register at usagc and that you
have an alternative which is to register to the government site on October
- November.
Thank you ,
Lior
Here's what I have to say about this:
-
Of course, you are the better SEO. That seems to be your job. But before
you waste a lot of time and money: Who cares if your site will appear in search
engine results when people search for "chongqed" or "chongqed.org"?
I don't care a hoot.
-
You do not agree to our listing of
usagc.us
for the keyword green card lottery?
Gosh! The spammers aren't agreeing with what we do! I guess we will have to shut down
chongqed.org then. Listen: We never thought you would
agree. We may be dumb, but we aren't that dumb.
-
usagc.org is not a faked site? Of course it isn't faked! I don't know how this relates to
usagc.us, but both of these sites are out there and accessible. People are free to give
you there money, we don't mind. But the warning from the goverment
is out there too and
not a fake.
And all they say is that you should be skeptical. Whether your site is in any way
illegal, a fraud, or a rip-off is not for us to judge. But it's never bad to be skeptical.
Here's a snippet from email #3:
I hope you understand its nothing personal,
I don't like you people destroying my reputation and even worse!!!! my
clients reputation.
All I have to say to this is: you are just about to ruin your "reputation"
yourself. You spammed guestbooks to promote that site. That wasn't us. You are now acting
in a childish way to harm us. We aren't the ones that put kiddy-talk on other peoples'
photographs. If your reputation is ruined, it was your own fault, sorry. We just did
a little reporting. Try it yourself and google for
"usagc.us".
The results speak for themselves: lots and lots of spammed guestbooks.
Finally, here is email #4:
Joe,
I didn't write all that crap about usagc
There is a huge difference between spamming and writing an article
Making people to think that usagc is a doubtful website which promotes it
self by spamming , there is no law saying you can't work with SEO's To
promote yourself and also , there is no law saying you can't put a link To
your site in forums and/or guest books.
Bottom line,
I can optimize my site anyway I want and how much I want, and you have no
Privilege in writing the craps your writing.
Please visit : http://www.start-link-exchange.com
( soon to be chongqed.com - will be activated in 24 hours)
tell dear manni he has till Sunday before im starting a massive
promotion for chongqed.com...
thanks
lior
No, you are right, there is no law saying you can't work as an SEO. And there
also is no law saying you may not spam guestbooks. We never claimed that such
laws existed. But there's also no law that tells you to not use Google to search
for links to certain sites. And there also is no law that says you cannot report
incidents of spamming. You put your spam on the world wide web and it is out there
for anyone to see it.
On the other hand, there is something like netiquette. And please don't tell me
that you didn't know that the owners of those guestbooks didn't like spam.
And yes, we have the privilege to write any kind of crap that we like to write.
That's the beauty of the www.
More information about chongqed.com
can be found on chongqed.org/chongqed.com/.